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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1992 12:34:52 +0200
From: Ari Lemmke < arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>
To: SUPERVISOR@novell.oih.no
Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
In-Reply-To: SUPERVISOR@novell.oih.no's message of 10 Jan 92 10:39:16 MET-1 
< MAILQUEUE-99.920110103917.416@novell.oih.no>


>Please delete my name/address from the linux-activists.
>
>Thanks

	Really people - stop these _jokes_ - on our mailing list.

	This mailing list is intended ONLY for Linux
	related discussion, not requesting.

	The one and only channel for requests is

		Linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi

	I even think this kind of mail do not belong here,
	but .. I wonder where we always have illiterates.

	"The only way to get on this mailing list was
	Linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi and the
	only way out is Linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi,
	there's no other way than Linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi
	for address changes."

	BTW. we have atleast 140 people getting this list
	around the world (+multiple secondary lists). In couple
	of hours (within my session 16.00-12.20 [huh, all nite long])
	we have had more than 20 new subscribers.

	When the list gets bigger we might have more trouble
	request messages on wrong address .. I really want to
	prevent that. And this is yet an other reason for
	the news group.

	arl

Subject: News group or mailing list?
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 92 22:24:51 -0500
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
To: Ari Lemmke < arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>, torvalds@cc.helsinki.fi
Cc: linux-activists@joker.cs.hut.fi
Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu

   Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1992 12:34:52 +0200
   From: Ari Lemmke < arl@sauna.cs.hut.fi>

	   When the list gets bigger we might have more trouble
	   request messages on wrong address .. I really want to
	   prevent that. And this is yet an other reason for
	   the news group.

I had earlier proposed a mail digestifer <-> news group gateway; well, I
finally have that software working on my system.  What it does is this:

	*) Mail sent to List-Name is posted to the newsgroup.

	*) News group articles are collected together and sent when they
		comprise a digest of between 20k and 30k, or if that
		doesn't happen in 6 hours, the news group articles are
		flushed out into a digest.

(All of the numbers, like the 20k, 30k, and the 6 hours can be adjusted
as appropriate.)

The general idea is that we can use this to replace the Linux Activists
lists at some point.  The question is when do do we do this and how.

I actually don't have very strong opinions about whether we do
alt.os.linux now, and transition to comp.os.linux later, or whether we
start the process for comp.os.linux now, and start doing the transition
60 days from now, or whether we just wait for a while if the pure
mailing solution is still holding up.

Linus, Ari, what do you think?  If you want, I can turn on the software
on relatively little notice; it's already been installed on my news
server.  

For people on the list: how many of you would prefer to get this mailing
list via news?  How many of you would be able to receive alt.os.linux?
How many of you would be able to receive comp.os.linux?  How many of you
would prefer to receive this via mail regardless?  PLEASE DO NOT REPLY
TO THE LIST.  MAIL ONLY TO ME, AND I WILL SUMMARIZE.  Thank you!

						- Ted