Newsgroups: comp.os.linux Path: sparky!uunet!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net! Sirius.dfn.de!news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE!rzsun2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de! rzdspc32!a2tiede From: a2ti...@rzdspc32.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Michael Tiede) Subject: Mailing List ? Message-ID: <a2tiede.723826461@rzdspc32> Keywords: mail Sender: n...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Mr. News) Organization: University of Hamburg, FRG Date: 8 Dec 92 14:54:21 GMT Lines: 13 Hi! I just saw that there should be a Linux mailing list. So there are two questions : - what informations are broadcasted in these mails - and, how can I become a 'member' of this list ? I know that this questions might be stupid...but I'm still a beginner in Unix/Internet ;-) Bye, Michael
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux Path: sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu! destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!newsserver.sfu.ca!rchen From: rc...@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) Subject: Re: Mailing List ? Message-ID: <1992Dec9.205759.8368@sfu.ca> Keywords: mail Sender: n...@sfu.ca Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada References: <a2tiede.723826461@rzdspc32> <1992Dec9.022209.28046@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1992 20:57:59 GMT Lines: 17 In article <1992Dec9.022209.28...@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirze...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes: > >HOWEVER, the list is currently not working (the machine it runs on >crashed, not unlikely because of the load caused by the mailing list), >so you might want to wait a few days. > >-- >Lars.Wirzen...@helsinki.fi (finger wirze...@klaava.helsinki.fi) Does the mailing list run on niksula or not? When I first stopped receiving mail from the list, I tried a finger @niksula.hut.fi. Sure enough it was up and had plenty of people logged in. It still is up, as of 5 seconds ago. Lars (above) says it crashed. Others say they are upgrading the mail software. Can anyone tell us what the real story with the mailing list is? - Ken
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!nntp.hut.fi!cs.hut.fi!arl From: a...@cs.hut.fi (Ari Lemmke) Subject: Re: Mailing List ? In-Reply-To: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI's message of Wed, 9 Dec 1992 23:31:56 GMT Message-ID: <ARL.92Dec13104729@deathstar.cs.hut.fi> Lines: 79 Sender: use...@nntp.hut.fi (Usenet pseudouser id) Nntp-Posting-Host: deathstar.cs.hut.fi Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland References: <a2tiede.723826461@rzdspc32> <1992Dec9.022209.28046@klaava.Helsinki.FI> <1992Dec9.205759.8368@sfu.ca> <1992Dec9.233156.4910@klaava.Helsinki.FI> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:47:31 GMT Lines: 79 In article <1992Dec9.233156.4...@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirze...@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes: : rc...@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes: : >Does the mailing list run on niksula or not? : : The mailing list linux-activi...@niksula.hut.fi (or joker.hut.fi, same : machine) is not, currently, in operation and has been down since : Saturday. Yes, due heavy load we had to take list off, and I reprogrammed Mail-Net totally with perl. Now it can handle bigger lists better - massive lists are digested. : >When I first stopped receiving mail from the list, I tried a finger : >@niksula.hut.fi. Sure enough it was up and had plenty of people : >logged in. It still is up, as of 5 seconds ago. Lars (above) says : >it crashed. : : As far as I understand, niksula did crash (a couple of times), but is : (and seems to stay) up now that the mailing list is disabled. I could : be wrong (I'm not a niksula user). True, it did crash multiple times. There may also be a hardware bug, but after taking list off it has not crashed ;-). If you see plenty of people in a computer with finger it does not mean they are logged in. We use GNU finger, and finger @joker.cs.hut.fi shows about 20 machines (i.e. niksula 'student laboratory'). : >Others say they are upgrading the mail software. Can : >anyone tell us what the real story with the mailing list is? : : Well, they _did_ upgrade the mail software also. This was also : because of the mailing list: it seems that sendmail wasn't able to : send out the more than 8000 mails per day (on a silent day :), so they : changed to a different mailer, but it didn't help much because the : computer still had problems. We dropped sendmail and installed zmailer, but it seems that although good ideas in it, it's not too good and stable. Maybe our postmaster installs smail as soon as possible (within year or two ;-). : The mailing list is not permanently out of order, however. It should : start working again in a few days, but it might have to start sending : mails in a digest format, i.e. several incoming mails are concatenated : to one, with about one digest mail going out per day. This should : reduce the mail load considerably. I finally got all modules to work .. 2500 lines perl code, and still needs more. I have been programming it, and no time for news etc... but "The 1st Linus meeting" ;-) took time also little bit ;-). : One problem with the mailing list is that while it has always been : mostly meant for small work groups, it is also used for asking : questions (often enough questions almost directly from the FAQ) which : would be better to post to comp.os.linux (or answered by reading the : FAQ). I hope people understand that sending FAQs through mail to 900 people (biggest list here), is not what one wants from a mailing list. We have had only few ignorant person sending mailing list requests to mailing list within half a year, the software prevents those .. so I do not need to blacklist people any more .. So finally the system is up and running .. [the famous last words, until he notices the system has looped sent 7000 mails ... like .. ]. : Lars.Wirzen...@helsinki.fi (finger wirze...@klaava.helsinki.fi) : MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it. arl