From mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:30:55 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:30:55 +0000 From: Jon Masters mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? Hi, As you will no doubt be aware, I am new to this list. If you remember I asked about the titanic DVD layer switching problem (no answer yet). I bought a new (any region) DVD drive (Hitachi - firmware upgraded) 6X the other day. I deliberately did _NOT_ buy an MPEG1/2 decoding card because I am not sure which one is the best to get. I here a lot about the Matrox card. I have never used or seen that card, and I am not an expert on MPEG decoding cards. Could I please have a (non-biased please) recommendation for a particular card which has the most support and is likely to provide the best Linux DVD experience. I'm not too worried about the card (I'm not paying for it anyway :-). -- Jonathan C. Masters wwwusers.brookes.ac.uk/95227860 jonathan@oxlug.org What I want is all of the power and none of the responsibility.
From jfbeam@bluetopia.net Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:06:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:06:25 -0500 (EST) From: Ricky Beam jfbeam@bluetopia.net Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jon Masters wrote: >I bought a new (any region) DVD drive (Hitachi - firmware upgraded) 6X >the other day. I deliberately did _NOT_ buy an MPEG1/2 decoding card >because I am not sure which one is the best to get. I here a lot about >the Matrox card. I have never used or seen that card, and I am not an >expert on MPEG decoding cards. Could I please have a (non-biased please) >recommendation for a particular card which has the most support and is >likely to provide the best Linux DVD experience. I'm not too worried >about the card (I'm not paying for it anyway :-). There are only two that have an kind of support under linux -- if there are more, people will pipe up... The dxr2 board from Creative Labs. CVS module: dxr2 The DVD add-on card for the G200 series Matrox cards. CVS module: mgavideo (and mga_vid.) Matrox may create the same thing for the G400 boards, but I doubt it as they appear to be doing the DVD decoding via WARP. I'd like to see the Hollywood plus supported, but Sigma is being resistive in handing over any specs for the EM9010 (overlay controler) or EM8300 (DVD (MPEG) decoder). There's a post in the list archives from August saying CSS was the reason they wouldn't release any docs. Personaly, I think that's a lame excuse -- so don't give us any of the CSS BS. I want access to the MPEG hardware anyway. I've only used a H+. I would suspect the Matrox setup (expensive and really bites for game play) would have the best DVD display as it's all in the frame buffer -- no PCI overlay into the FB, and no pass-thru cable. On the H+, the pass-thru is murder for the video signal and the cable is not a standard HD15-HD15 cable that can be replaced easily. And on my system, there's a 3 to 4 pixel alignment error in the overlay -- looks kindof funky. --Ricky PS: Don't RPC-2 drives have a connector for the decoder hardware to handle the key exchange? (I've only scanned over the zoran specs.)
From mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:40:19 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:40:19 +0000 From: Jon Masters mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? Ricky Beam wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jon Masters wrote: > >I bought a new (any region) DVD drive (Hitachi - firmware upgraded) 6X > >the other day. I deliberately did _NOT_ buy an MPEG1/2 decoding card > >because I am not sure which one is the best to get. I here a lot about > >the Matrox card. I have never used or seen that card, and I am not an > >expert on MPEG decoding cards. Could I please have a (non-biased please) > >recommendation for a particular card which has the most support and is > >likely to provide the best Linux DVD experience. I'm not too worried > >about the card (I'm not paying for it anyway :-). > > There are only two that have an kind of support under linux -- if there are > more, people will pipe up... > > The dxr2 board from Creative Labs. CVS module: dxr2 > > The DVD add-on card for the G200 series Matrox cards. CVS module: mgavideo > (and mga_vid.) Matrox may create the same thing for the G400 boards, but > I doubt it as they appear to be doing the DVD decoding via WARP. > > I'd like to see the Hollywood plus supported, but Sigma is being resistive > in handing over any specs for the EM9010 (overlay controler) or EM8300 > (DVD (MPEG) decoder). There's a post in the list archives from August > saying CSS was the reason they wouldn't release any docs. Personaly, I > think that's a lame excuse -- so don't give us any of the CSS BS. I want > access to the MPEG hardware anyway. > > I've only used a H+. I would suspect the Matrox setup (expensive and really > bites for game play) would have the best DVD display as it's all in the frame > buffer -- no PCI overlay into the FB, and no pass-thru cable. On the H+, the > pass-thru is murder for the video signal and the cable is not a standard > HD15-HD15 cable that can be replaced easily. And on my system, there's a > 3 to 4 pixel alignment error in the overlay -- looks kindof funky. > > --Ricky > > PS: Don't RPC-2 drives have a connector for the decoder hardware to handle > the key exchange? (I've only scanned over the zoran specs.) > > _______________________________________________ > Livid-dev maillist - Livid-dev@livid.on.openprojects.net > http://livid.on.openprojects.net/mailman/listinfo/livid-dev OK. So as I thought, Matrox is recommended. Anyone else got any ideas? I should add that I currently have an ATI AIW PRO AGP 8Mb card which I quite like (GATOS is comming along for TV Tuner functionality). I'm really after a Linux supported add-on card that doesn't replace my main card - do Matrox do such a card (I would have thought so). P.S. How advanced is the hardware support - If I buy a Matrox card I understand that only the TV out is working at the moment (I can simply plug it in to the S-video in on my ATI card). How about control - when watching the film, do you only have the start/stop functionality, or is it possible to skip forwards an backwards through the video yet? Thanks again, Jon. -- Jonathan C. Masters jonathan@oxlug.org What I want is all of the power and none of the responsibility.
From scarabaeus@convergence.de Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:53:49 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:53:49 +0100 From: Christian Wolff scarabaeus@convergence.de Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? Ricky Beam wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Jon Masters wrote: > >Could I please have a (non-biased please) > >recommendation for a particular card which has the most support and is= > >likely to provide the best Linux DVD experience. I'm not too worried > >about the card (I'm not paying for it anyway :-). > = > There are only two that have an kind of support under linux -- if there= are > more, people will pipe up... There is another one. But it's not available, yet. 8-( = BoMedia is about to release a DVD Decoder card named "RealDVDi", featuring the LSI Logic L64021 decoder chip. Currently i am writing a driver for this card, and i can already watch DVD's on pentium systems with less than 100MHz. We're gonna release the driver as the card hits the market. Watch http://linuxtv.org/dvd/ for more info. -- = Christian Wolff *196807101035 53=B08'2" N 8=B013'20" E http://www.scarabaeus.org/ mailto:scarabaeus@scarabaeus.org check out http://betalounge.com/ http://www.convergence.de +49-30-4473 6926, Norwegerstr. 5.1, D-10439 Berlin, Germany PGP Fingerprint:B871 358C 3F10 A5ED C41C B1DB B9F9 3C44/2048
From gregoire.favre@urbanet.ch Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:53:19 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 18:53:19 +0100 From: Gregoire FAVRE gregoire.favre@urbanet.ch Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? Jon Masters wrote: > OK. So as I thought, Matrox is recommended. Anyone else got any ideas? I > should add that I currently have an ATI AIW PRO AGP 8Mb card which I > quite like (GATOS is comming along for TV Tuner functionality). I'm > really after a Linux supported add-on card that doesn't replace my main > card - do Matrox do such a card (I would have thought so). Well, your card has DVD acceleration in it and as ATI is giving help to programm it, we should see someone adding that feature under linux also? From ATI Sales Support <sales@ati.com>: Greg, We have a Developer Relations group that could help you with the information you require. They can be reached @ 905-882-2600 ex.#6000 or @ their email address of devrel@atitech.ca. Check out our web page at http://www.atitech.com/ca_us/resource_centre/dev_rel/devrel.html for the developer support section. Should you have any further questions, Please feel free to contact us. Bob Thawer ATI Sales Support 33 Commerce Valley Drive East, Thornhill, ONT L3T-7N6 Telephone (905) 882-2600 Option# 4, Fax (905) 882-2620 Email: sales@ati.com Check out our web site http://www.ati.com <http://www.ati.com/> Please, don't cc to me: I am on the list... Greg ICQ:16624071 '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Gregoire Favre, Institut de Mathématique de l'Universite de Lausanne +41216923573,+41763231357, http://www.unil.ch/ima/docs/Personnes/gfavre
From mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:33:05 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:33:05 +0000 From: Jon Masters mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? Christian Wolff wrote: > There is another one. But it's not available, yet. 8-( > BoMedia is about to release a DVD Decoder card named "RealDVDi", > featuring the LSI Logic L64021 decoder chip. Currently i am writing a > driver for this card, and i can already watch DVD's on pentium systems > with less than 100MHz. We're gonna release the driver as the card hits > the market. Watch http://linuxtv.org/dvd/ for more info. Yes, I've been following your site on that. I contacted LSI UK (Bracknell, near to Reading where I live). I haven't heard back yet. I wanted to get hold of one of their reference kits, since your page is a tad vague on exactly when I can get hold of the card. Do you have any further information please, any speculation as to when I can buy the card? Also, could you tell me what your driver will do at the moment - do I have any navigation or menu functions, etc... - how easyily can they be added - i.e. do you have enough access to the specs to complete the driver? Thanks once again, Jonathan. -- Jonathan C. Masters jonathan@oxlug.org What I want is all of the power and none of the responsibility.
From masoto@uniandes.edu.co 15 Nov 1999 15:34:06 -0500 Date: 15 Nov 1999 15:34:06 -0500 From: Martin Soto masoto@uniandes.edu.co Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? Gregoire FAVRE <gregoire.favre@urbanet.ch> writes: > Jon Masters wrote: > > OK. So as I thought, Matrox is recommended. Anyone else got any ideas? I > > should add that I currently have an ATI AIW PRO AGP 8Mb card which I > > quite like (GATOS is comming along for TV Tuner functionality). I'm > > really after a Linux supported add-on card that doesn't replace my main > > card - do Matrox do such a card (I would have thought so). > > Well, your card has DVD acceleration in it and as ATI is giving help to > programm it, we should see someone adding that feature under linux also? Unfortunately, it seems that ATI is not providing information about MPEG2 acceleration in their cards. I'm quoting the following from their Linux Developer Relations page (http://www.ati.com/ca_us/resource_centre/dev_rel/linux.html): ATI is investigating the possibility of supporting MPEG2 / DVD hardware under Linux. Due to licensing and royalty agreements this driver may not be available as an open source release. Please refer back to this web page to keep up to date on developments regarding MPEG2/DVD support. Does anybody know if there are there any legal issues regarding MPEG2 (not DVD) the may prevent ATI from releasing the relevant information? Regards, M. S. ------------ Martin A. Soto J. Profesor Departamento de Ingenieria de Sistemas y Computacion Universidad de los Andes masoto@uniandes.edu.co
From alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:10:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 23:10:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Alan Cox alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? > Does anybody know if there are there any legal issues regarding MPEG2 > (not DVD) the may prevent ATI from releasing the relevant information? For Mpeg2 there shouldnt be. Its likely to be no more than scaling and maybe motion compensation helpers on card. Also in the US if you get a product they have to include the patent rights to use it. Obviously the DVD side, with css and the like is another matter The fact that the DVD half is the half we know is ironic but doesnt help them
From scarabaeus@convergence.de Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:59:52 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:59:52 +0100 From: Christian Wolff scarabaeus@convergence.de Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? Jon Masters wrote: > Christian Wolff wrote: > > There is another one. But it's not available, yet. 8-( > > BoMedia is about to release a DVD Decoder card named "RealDVDi", > > featuring the LSI Logic L64021 decoder chip. Currently i am writing a= > > driver for this card, and i can already watch DVD's on pentium system= s > > with less than 100MHz. We're gonna release the driver as the card hit= s > > the market. Watch http://linuxtv.org/dvd/ for more info. > = > Yes, I've been following your site on that. I contacted LSI UK > (Bracknell, near to Reading where I live). I haven't heard back yet. I Yes, someone from LSI Munich told me, they are doing the digital video stuff in Bracknell. On the other hand, the best support i got so far was from the silicon valley headquarter. Anyways, the reference card in question and the windows driver was developed by videon central for LSI. They also developed the hollywood plus, by the way. > wanted to get hold of one of their reference kits, since your page is a= > tad vague on exactly when I can get hold of the card. Do you have any > further information please, any speculation as to when I can buy the > card? I don't think you can have any of the reference cards anymore, unless they made a new batch. You could ask the guys at bomedia about the release date. > Also, could you tell me what your driver will do at the moment - do I > have any navigation or menu functions, etc... - how easyily can they be= > added - i.e. do you have enough access to the specs to complete the > driver? The driver itself allows playback of MPEG1 and 2 streams of any image size up to TV resolution. It provides a 'DVD Driver API' for a DVD navigator. See http://linuxtv.org/dvd/api/cvdvtypes.h I am also developing a Navigator module to display menus and change streams and angles and all that stuff. Since i have the Specs of the DVD forum, and signed the NDA, i won't be able to release it as open source, wich is a pity. The navigator provides a 'DVD Player API' for your needs: http://linuxtv.org/dvd/api/DVDPlayerAPI.h -- = Christian Wolff *196807101035 53=B08'2" N 8=B013'20" E http://www.scarabaeus.org/ mailto:scarabaeus@scarabaeus.org check out http://betalounge.com/ http://www.convergence.de +49-30-4473 6926, Norwegerstr. 5.1, D-10439 Berlin, Germany PGP Fingerprint:B871 358C 3F10 A5ED C41C B1DB B9F9 3C44/2048
From justin@suntiger.ee.up.ac.za Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:23:01 -0200 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:23:01 -0200 From: Justin Schoeman justin@suntiger.ee.up.ac.za Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? There is one other card that may be a good option (particularly if you also want to receive digital satelite transmissions!): http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~rjkm/linux/skyvis.html This supports unencoded VOB playback, so it should be easy to incorporate into a DVD player. (I haven't looked at it myself, but I saw it the other day while browsing the web...) -justin
From andreas@andreas.org 16 Nov 1999 17:01:09 +0100 Date: 16 Nov 1999 17:01:09 +0100 From: Andreas Bogk andreas@andreas.org Subject: [Livid-dev] Which card? Justin Schoeman <justin@suntiger.ee.up.ac.za> writes: > There is one other card that may be a good option (particularly if you also > want to receive digital satelite transmissions!): > > http://www.thp.uni-koeln.de/~rjkm/linux/skyvis.html > > This supports unencoded VOB playback, so it should be easy to incorporate into > a DVD player. This card has the drawback that it depends on polling. Much better suited is the card that's being produced by Siemens and Technotrend: http://www.pc-werksverkauf.de/zubehoer/zubehoer3.htm which we're writing drivers for now at the moment. I don't recommend buying the card until we release the drivers however, Siemens is still a little reluctant with that GPL stuff (although they helped us a lot in developing these drivers in the first place, much the opposite of Technotrend). This card does only the MPEG2 decoding, so for the full DVD functionality, a software SPU stream parser has to be written. But it has to be written for Nist as well. Andreas -- "We should be willing to look at the source code we produce not as the end product of a more interesting process, but as an artifact in its own right. It should look good stuck up on the wall." -- http://www.ftech.net/~honeyg/progstone/progstone.html
From mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:07:39 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 23:07:39 +0000 From: Jon Masters mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Livid-dev] ```````````````````````````` Continuing DVD Problem ''''''''''''''''''''''' OK. Thanks for some of the replies that I have received so far. Unfortunately nothing has helped - no it isn't double-sided (I think I might have noticed and turned it over - just to please, I tried mounting the printed side just for the sake of it without success!) - but it is double layered. Thanks to the guy who suggested that I was in fact seeing both layers and that I should "do the math", however, I'm still unable to access any files past the seventh - there must be further files on the disc since I just spent over two hours watching the video (no fast forward ability) to get to the same point as it was before at which point it crashed. Here are the commands that I used to view the video [mastersj@periscope DVD-easy]$ cat watch-dvd #!/bin/sh echo "This function was started on:" date esdctl off # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom mount -t udf /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom ./tstdvd /dev/cdrom # ./tstdvd /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom/video_ts/vts_01_1.vob ./tstdvd /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB mv title-key title1-key # cat /mnt/cdrom/video_ts/vts_01_[1-8].vob | ./css-cat -v1P -| ./mpeg2player -ns -fr 150 -q -vob -f - cat /mnt/cdrom/VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_[1-9].VOB | ./css-cat -v1P -| ./mpeg2player -ns -fr 150 -q -vob -f - The output generated: [root@periscope DVD-easy]# ./watch-dvd This function was started on: Tue Nov 16 20:52:05 GMT 1999 mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only Authenticated Request AGID [1]... AGID 0 Host sending challenge: REMOVED LU sent key1: REMOVED Drive Authentic - using varient 5 LU sent challenge: REMOVED Host sending key 2: REMOVED DVD is authenticated Received Session Key: REMOVED Authenticated Received Disc Key: REMOVED Authenticated Authenticated Request AGID [1]... AGID 0 Host sending challenge: REMOVED LU sent key1: REMOVED Drive Authentic - using varient 5 LU sent challenge: REMOVED Host sending key 2: REMOVED DVD is authenticated Received Session Key: REMOVED Authenticated Received Title Key: REMOVED CPM=1, CP_SEC=0, CGMS=3 Authenticated Using Key 3 --------------------------------------------- Verbose Off File - SDU size 131072 Video Stream ID 0 Audio Stream ID 0 Frame rate 150 Audio AC3 Audio buffer 102400 Audio Time Stamp buffer 1000 Video On Video buffer 1024000 Video Time Stamp buffer 1000 Sync audio/video Off --------------------------------------------- Start MPEG 2 Player Playing MPEG 2 PS Audio/Video -- ac3dec-0.5.5 (C) 1999 Aaron Holtzman (aholtzma@ess.engr.uvic.ca) 5.1 Mode 48 KHz 384 kbps Complete Main Audio Service Not Pack start code ( the above line is repeated several hundred times then the video shows the copyright screen and I have to ^C to end it) I am using the latest UDF and CSS kernel patches. OK here's the directory contents: [mastersj@periscope mastersj]$ cd /mnt/cdrom [mastersj@periscope cdrom]$ ls -la total 137 dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 196 Jul 30 09:37 ./ drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 1024 Nov 9 23:09 ../ -r--r--r-- 1 root root 132096 Jun 27 22:27 SYSCHECK.EXE -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1362 Jun 24 20:07 TECHSUPPORT.HTM dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 768 Jul 30 09:37 VIDEO_TS/ [mastersj@periscope cdrom]$ cd VIDEO_TS/ [mastersj@periscope VIDEO_TS]$ ls -la total 7585704 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 768 Jul 30 09:37 ./ dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 196 Jul 30 09:37 ../ -r--r--r-- 1 root root 12288 Jul 30 09:37 VIDEO_TS.BUP -r--r--r-- 1 root root 12288 Jul 30 09:37 VIDEO_TS.IFO -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1597440 Jul 30 09:26 VIDEO_TS.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 102400 Jul 30 08:53 VTS_01_0.BUP -r--r--r-- 1 root root 102400 Jul 30 08:53 VTS_01_0.IFO -r--r--r-- 1 root root 27762688 Jul 30 08:51 VTS_01_0.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Jul 30 08:57 VTS_01_1.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Jul 30 09:02 VTS_01_2.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Jul 30 09:06 VTS_01_3.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 784889856 Jul 30 09:09 VTS_01_4.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Jul 30 09:13 VTS_01_5.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Jul 30 09:17 VTS_01_6.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1073739776 Jul 30 09:21 VTS_01_7.VOB -r--r--r-- 1 root root 510838784 Jul 30 09:23 VTS_01_8.VOB [mastersj@periscope VIDEO_TS]$ Can someone please help me with this continuing (irritating problem). There _must_ be more than 8 video files since the file is obviously much longer. TIA, Jon. -- Jonathan C. Masters jonathan@oxlug.org What I want is all of the power and none of the responsibility.
From laredo@stradis.com Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:21:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 18:21:37 -0500 (EST) From: nil laredo@stradis.com Subject: [Livid-dev] ```````````````````````````` Continuing DVD Problem > Thanks for some of the replies that I have received so far. > Unfortunately nothing has helped - no it isn't double-sided (I think I > might have noticed and turned it over - just to please, I tried mounting > the printed side just for the sake of it without success!) - but it is > double layered. Thanks to the guy who suggested that I was in fact > seeing both layers and that I should "do the math", however, I'm still > unable to access any files past the seventh - there must be further > files on the disc since I just spent over two hours watching the video > (no fast forward ability) to get to the same point as it was before at > which point it crashed. A bug in the iso filesystem prevents reading files properly that are offset more than 4GB from the start of the disc. Get the latest kernel for the fix, or else try the code that was anonymously posted to the list a while back which seems to read dvd by lba. It also appears to work for the Matrix. -- Nathan Laredo laredo@gnu.org
From scarabaeus@convergence.de Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:40:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:40:31 +0100 From: Christian Wolff scarabaeus@convergence.de Subject: [Livid-dev] ```````````````````````````` Continuing DVD Problem Nathan Laredo wrote: > A bug in the iso filesystem prevents reading files properly that are > offset more than 4GB from the start of the disc. Get the latest > kernel for the fix, or else try the code that was anonymously posted > to the list a while back which seems to read dvd by lba. It also > appears to work for the Matrix. Or, even better solution, install the udf filesystem: http://trylinux.com/projects/udf/ I think, even some of the ISO9660 partition information on DVD discs are written wrong. UDF is the mandatory DVD-ROM filesystem, ISO will be dropped in the near future. -- = Christian Wolff *196807101035 53=B08'2" N 8=B013'20" E http://www.scarabaeus.org/ mailto:scarabaeus@scarabaeus.org check out http://betalounge.com/ http://www.convergence.de +49-30-4473 6926, Norwegerstr. 5.1, D-10439 Berlin, Germany PGP Fingerprint:B871 358C 3F10 A5ED C41C B1DB B9F9 3C44/2048
From mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:37:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:37:23 +0000 From: Jon Masters mastersj@periscope-systems.freeserve.co.uk Subject: [Livid-dev] ```````````````````````````` Continuing DVD Problem Christian Wolff wrote: > > Nathan Laredo wrote: > > A bug in the iso filesystem prevents reading files properly that are > > offset more than 4GB from the start of the disc. Get the latest > > kernel for the fix, or else try the code that was anonymously posted > > to the list a while back which seems to read dvd by lba. It also > > appears to work for the Matrix. > > Or, even better solution, install the udf filesystem: > http://trylinux.com/projects/udf/ > > I think, even some of the ISO9660 partition information on DVD discs are > written wrong. UDF is the mandatory DVD-ROM filesystem, ISO will be > dropped in the near future. Hi, Please note that in my previous mail, I explicitly mention that I _AM_ using UDF already. I really wouldn't bother everyone over something trivial, but when mounted as a UDF fs, it still will not allow me to see all the files. I guess there could be abug/whatever with the UDF driver - Titanic is 3 and a quater hours long+beginning and end music - is it possible the the UDF stuff hasn't been tested with such a large film? (not ruling out the possibility that it is something trivial...) Jon. -- Jonathan C. Masters jonathan@oxlug.org What I want is all of the power and none of the responsibility.