From: Derrik Pates <dpa...@cavern.nmsu.edu> Subject: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!! Date: 1996/08/07 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.94.960807181202.6263A-100000@Cavern.NMSU.Edu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 174034874 sender: owner-linux-ker...@vger.rutgers.edu content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII x-hdr-sender: dpa...@cavern.nmsu.edu mime-version: 1.0 x-env-sender: owner-linux-kernel-outgo...@vger.rutgers.edu newsgroups: linux.dev.kernel Hello all. Creative Labs has FINALLY (yes, and officially even) release the low-level proggy info for their EMU8000 synth chip! (Yay!) I am about to start writing the driver, but if someone else wants to help, or try their hand, (or just see what there is to see) go to ftp.creaf.com /pub/creative/developer and get adip.exe. It MUST be extracted in DOS, then the self-extractor within must also be pulled out in DOS. (encrypted) The password for the encrypted one (this is included in the docs) is FULLAGREE. Justrun it with -sFULLAGREE -d added on, and there's a PDF inside called emu8kpgm. Has full register level programming info. Check it out AWE32 users! (Hooray! We did it - it's about time!) Derrik Pates dpa...@cavern.nmsu.edu -- "Some help would be nice... Or a sandwich and a cold beer!!!" --Boston Low, "The Dig"
From: s...@hackvan.com (Stig) Subject: Re: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!! Date: 1996/08/20 Message-ID: <m0usy1H-00072XC@JATO.hackvan.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 175380750 sender: owner-linux-ker...@vger.rutgers.edu references: <m0usxLS-00072XC@JATO.hackvan.com> x-hdr-sender: s...@hackvan.com x-pgpfone: Encrypted phone calls welcome @ tailgunner.hackvan.com x-face: V3#TB_`^vld7L-O4+Qk1%QYVRe6B2)Ia$tWrjprU|P'pM:Y{P5Io@~qxuL:&.;*?KU5.w_J x-env-sender: owner-linux-kernel-outgo...@vger.rutgers.edu newsgroups: linux.dev.kernel Patrick Michael Kane wrote: > > Stig, > > The issue is not getting the information, which is easy, but legally > using the information. Even if you break the zip encryption, you are > still doing something illeagal by utilizing it. > > Patrick > <mo...@asimov.net> That depends upon a lot of things. And, it's really quite possible that you're not. Information is intangible. You cannot use code that is copyrighted because it's protected by copyright. And, you cannot write your own code to implement an algorithm that's protected by a patent. But "trade secrets" have no protection whatsoever once they've been exposed. That's why you're forced to sign NDAs before you're made privy to trade secrets. There is no legal protection for the secret itself, so the NDA becomes the sole legal recourse of the party with the trade secret. The issue is an unpublished API. It could copyrighted but that doesn't mean that you can't read it. And, the copyright only has teeth with respect to the reproduction of the document. It CANNOT DICTATE WHAT YOU DO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED BY READING THE DOCUMENT. I'm not a lawyer, but I've seen lawyers discussing this stuff... Stig
From: Alan Cox <a...@cymru.net> Subject: Re: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!! Date: 1996/08/21 Message-ID: <199608210858.JAA08711@snowcrash.cymru.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 175479854 sender: owner-linux-ker...@vger.rutgers.edu references: <m0usy1H-00072XC@JATO.hackvan.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII x-hdr-sender: a...@cymru.net mime-version: 1.0 x-env-sender: owner-linux-kernel-outgo...@vger.rutgers.edu newsgroups: linux.dev.kernel > Information is intangible. You cannot use code that is copyrighted because > it's protected by copyright. And, you cannot write your own code to > implement an algorithm that's protected by a patent. Except in the free world beyond the USA. Alan
From: s...@hackvan.com (Stig) Subject: Re: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!! Date: 1996/08/21 Message-ID: <m0utDme-00072XC@JATO.hackvan.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 175495212 sender: owner-linux-ker...@vger.rutgers.edu references: <m0usy1H-00072XC@JATO.hackvan.com> x-hdr-sender: s...@hackvan.com x-pgpfone: Encrypted phone calls welcome @ tailgunner.hackvan.com x-face: V3#TB_`^vld7L-O4+Qk1%QYVRe6B2)Ia$tWrjprU|P'pM:Y{P5Io@~qxuL:&.;*?KU5.w_J x-env-sender: owner-linux-kernel-outgo...@vger.rutgers.edu newsgroups: linux.dev.kernel Alan Cox wrote: > > > Information is intangible. You cannot use code that is copyrighted because > > it's protected by copyright. And, you cannot write your own code to > > implement an algorithm that's protected by a patent. > > Except in the free world beyond the USA. I guess you're referring to RSA? RSA does not have an international patent, only a domestic one. This is because publication of the algorigthm was rushed to prevent a secrecy order from the NSA. US patent law permits you to apply for a patent up to one year from the date of publication. International patent law tends to prohibit publication until the patent is actually approved (certainly until after the patent application is made). So, because of the forced publication, RSA was not eligible for international patents. But this isn't exactly kernel-related... Stig PS: Good copyright site: http://www.benedict.com
From: Alan Cox <a...@cymru.net> Subject: Re: AWE32 Programming Info (Official) Released!!!! Date: 1996/08/21 Message-ID: <199608211405.PAA19710@snowcrash.cymru.net>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 175513346 sender: owner-linux-ker...@vger.rutgers.edu references: <m0utDme-00072XC@JATO.hackvan.com> content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII x-hdr-sender: a...@cymru.net mime-version: 1.0 x-env-sender: owner-linux-kernel-outgo...@vger.rutgers.edu newsgroups: linux.dev.kernel > > > Information is intangible. You cannot use code that is copyrighted because > > > it's protected by copyright. And, you cannot write your own code to > > > implement an algorithm that's protected by a patent. > > Except in the free world beyond the USA. > > I guess you're referring to RSA? RSA does not have an international patent, > only a domestic one. This is because publication of the algorigthm was No other country of note recognizes software as patentable, even if there is a hardware patent. Software is just a statement of mathematical facts