Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site nrcvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!nrcvax!terry From: te...@nrcvax.UUCP (Terry Grevstad) Newsgroups: net.books,net.text,net.wanted Subject: a READABLE nroff/troff manual???? Message-ID: <204@nrcvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 15:13:31 EDT Article-I.D.: nrcvax.204 Posted: Thu Aug 1 15:13:31 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 4-Aug-85 10:33:14 EDT Reply-To: te...@nrcvax.UUCP (Terry Grevstad) Organization: Network Research Research Corp. Oxnard,CA Lines: 17 I've got to learn Nroff/Troff in a hurry, and I find the Nroff/Troff User's Manual highly unenlightening. Does anyone know of a book out there that gives a fuller explanation of the subject? Maybe with some good, clear examples? I've gone through everything in the UNIX User's Manual Supplementary Documents, and right now I feel like I'm wading in very deep water. The only other word processing type systems I'm familiar with are things like WordStar and WordPerfect--not anything like typesetting. Maybe a good book on typesetting would help???? Any suggestions would be appreciated! Terry Grevstad ...!sdcrdcf!psivax!nrcvax!terry "The man who insists upon seeing with perfect clearness before he decides, never decides." -Henri Frederic Amiel-
Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site kitty.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!rocksanne!sunybcs!kitty!larry From: la...@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: net.books,net.text,net.wanted Subject: Re: a READABLE nroff/troff manual???? Message-ID: <253@kitty.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Aug-85 14:45:53 EDT Article-I.D.: kitty.253 Posted: Tue Aug 6 14:45:53 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 8-Aug-85 00:57:53 EDT References: <204@nrcvax.UUCP> Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 22 > I've got to learn Nroff/Troff in a hurry, and I find the Nroff/Troff > User's Manual highly unenlightening. Does anyone know of a book out > there that gives a fuller explanation of the subject? Maybe with some > good, clear examples? ... Try "A Practical Guide to the UNIX System" by Mark G. Sobell, ISBN 0-8053-8910-5 published by The Benjamin/Cummings Publishing Co. of Menlo Park, Ca. This book has about 50 pages on nroff with examples. I had the same problem you did - and this book gave me enough initial understanding so that I could THEN understand the UNIX doc's, which are about as clear as mud for a first time user. Larry Lippman Recognition Research Corp. Clarence, New York UUCP {decvax,dual,rocksanne,rocksvax,watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry {rice,shell}!baylor!/ syr!buf!/ VOICE 716/741-9185 TELEX {via WUI} 69-71461 answerback: ELGECOMCLR "Have you hugged your cat today?"
Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site convexs Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax! harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!convexs!ayers From: ay...@convexs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.books Subject: Re: a READABLE nroff/troff manual???? Message-ID: <6000005@convexs> Date: Mon, 12-Aug-85 10:00:00 EDT Article-I.D.: convexs.6000005 Posted: Mon Aug 12 10:00:00 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Aug-85 06:47:36 EDT References: <204@nrcvax.UUCP> Lines: 20 Nf-ID: #R:nrcvax.UUCP:-20400:convexs:6000005:000:728 Nf-From: convexs.UUCP!ayers Aug 12 09:00:00 1985 /* Written 12:15 pm Aug 6, 1985 by w...@rti-sel.UUCP in convexs:net.books */ Unfortunately, much software documentation is unreadable or unuseable because many technical people undervalue the importance of documentation to the user and underestimate the difficulty of producing first-rate documentation... It takes considerable SKILL to produce useable, readable documentation; when is the industry going to recognize this fact? ...The problem with the Nroff/Troff User's Manual is that it was written by hackers for hackers. -- Cheers, Bill Ingogly /* End of text from convexs:net.books */ Thank you, Bill... blues, II No Clothes! No Clothes! The Emperor Penguin has no clothes!
Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site proper.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!qantel!proper!judith From: jud...@proper.UUCP (Judith Abrahms) Newsgroups: net.books,net.text,net.wanted Subject: Re: a READABLE nroff/troff manual???? Message-ID: <219@proper.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Aug-85 07:09:57 EDT Article-I.D.: proper.219 Posted: Fri Aug 16 07:09:57 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Aug-85 22:26:04 EDT References: <> Reply-To: jud...@proper.UUCP (judith) Organization: Proper UNIX, Oakland CA Lines: 20 In article <> te...@nrcvax.UUCP (Terry Grevstad) writes: >I've got to learn Nroff/Troff in a hurry, and I find the Nroff/Troff >User's Manual highly unenlightening. Does anyone know of a book out >there that gives a fuller explanation of the subject? Maybe with some >good, clear examples? UNIX FOR PEOPLE, by Birns, Brown, & Muster (Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, 1985) is the book I've found clearest, easiest, and fastest to learn from in my attempts to master editing on here. It's aimed at the complete novice, but you can skim the parts that are already familiar. Examples, short reviews, and exercises to give you practice online are plentiful. The style is simple but not disgustingly jocular. The book takes you through an intro to vi & goes right on to troff & nroff, phototypesetting, etc. I've seen it at Tower Books (subsid. of Tower Records), UCB bookstore, & other places. It ought to be easy to find. And if you can handle Wordstar...! No problem! JA