Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!hplabs!sdcrdcf!ucla-cs!tamir From: ta...@ucla-cs.ARPA (Yuval Tamir) Newsgroups: net.works,net.unix-wizards Subject: Andrew and X Message-ID: <10676@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Sat, 12-Apr-86 02:39:50 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.10676 Posted: Sat Apr 12 02:39:50 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 14-Apr-86 01:41:44 EST Reply-To: ta...@ucla-cs.UUCP (Yuval Tamir) Distribution: net Organization: UCLA Computer Science Dept. Lines: 17 Andrew and X are window systems for UNIX workstations. They were developed at CMU and MIT, repectively. I believe that both have been used on SUNs and PC RTs. X has also been used on VAXStations. Both systems are supposedly available to universities at distribution cost. I would like to know who to contact at CMU and MIT in order to obtain Andrew and X. Have they been ported to other machines ? What is the complete list of machines/displays that they work on ? Yuval Tamir Internet: ta...@locus.ucla.edu UUCP: {..,ihnp4,ucbvax}!ucla-cs!tamir
Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site mit-eddie.MIT.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!jg From: j...@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU (Jim Gettys) Newsgroups: net.works,net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Andrew and X Message-ID: <1579@mit-eddie.MIT.EDU> Date: Sun, 13-Apr-86 11:25:56 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1579 Posted: Sun Apr 13 11:25:56 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Apr-86 00:59:46 EST References: <10676@ucla-cs.ARPA> Reply-To: j...@mit-eddie.UUCP (Jim Gettys) Distribution: net Organization: MIT Project Athena. Lines: 89 Keywords: Andrew, X, window Andrew was done at the Information Technology Center at CMU. It is available only to universities under license from IBM. You should contact someone there for information on what displays Andrew runs on, but the number is large. X is a network transparent window system; client programs can run on any machine in your network using your workstation's display transparently. X was developed at MIT by Bob Scheifler, myself and others (Bob is in the Laboratory for Computer Science, I work for Digital at Project Athena at MIT). We started with some software called W done at Stanford by Paul Asente and Brian Reid, though little of W besides some of the ideas remain at this date. Current applications include several window manager programs (X attempts to seperate mechanism from policy), a terminal emulator (~vt102 and Tek 4010), a number of demo programs, load monitor, several previewers (Imagen and DVI), and a number of other utilities. The device independent part of X developed at MIT is available from MIT for $100. X is copyright MIT, but there are no restrictions against redistribution for profit. No license with MIT is required to get a distribution. The device dependent implementations for the DEC VS100, Sun and object for the VS2 are on the MIT distribution along with a preliminary implementation for the Sun display. Since the 4.3BSD release is immanent, I am now removing what little Unix source code comes on the distribution, and no license at all is required; if you need that code, you will be able to get it from that tape. Our current release matches the version on the 4.3BSD source tape. The VS2 and VS2/GPX implementations are available supported (along with other Digital developed software, for example GKS) from Digital as the Ultrix-32w product. Listed below are some of the machines on which X is now known to be running (or which there may be active ports in progress), though the implementations may not yet be available: Available NOW: ____________________________________ Digitial Equipment Corporation: VS100 (Complete, MIT distribution) VS2 (Complete, MIT distribution or Ultrix 32w) VS2/GPX (Complete, Ultrix 32w only) Sun Microsystems Inc: Sun workstations EXCEPT Sun 1 color (incomplete, MIT distribution) ____________________________________ Not yet available, but demonstrable: IBM RT/PC under 4.2a ONLY (APA8, APA16, ACIS displays) (Should be available early Summer; Brown University has been doing the port) Masscomp (Status unknown) Jupiter Systems (Status unknown) ___________________________________ Others who may be working on implementations: Apollo ___________________________________ Other Server only implementations: Xerox Dandelion (Berkeley, status unknown; this allows programs running on various Unix machines to do their display on the Dandelion). In addition, the client programs have been ported to the CCI and at least one research machine in Digital; it is believed that porting client programs to nearly any machine running Berkeley Unix should be very simple. There is also other activity porting X to other hardware; the above list is incomplete, and there is no way for me to know who is doing what with X unless they are kind enough to keep me informed. Distributions have been requested and mailed to nearly every computer manufacturer. If you want X on XYZ piece of hardware, either do the work yourself or bother the manufacturer to make it available. We have our hands full with the six different displays we have to deal with at Project Athena. To get a copy of X, send mail to "xrequ...@athena.mit.edu". Jim Gettys Digital Equipment Corporation MIT/Project Athena j...@athena.mit.edu