Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu! dali.cs.montana.edu!milton!unicorn!n8443916 From: n8443...@unicorn.WWU.EDU (John Gossman) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix Subject: MOTIF Message-ID: <1431@unicorn.WWU.EDU> Date: 26 Aug 90 21:47:55 GMT Reply-To: n8443...@unicorn.WWU.EDU (John Gossman) Organization: Western Washington Univ, Bellingham, WA Lines: 16 Posted: Sun Aug 26 22:47:55 1990 I am soliciting facts and opinions about the status of MOTIF on Ultrix. DEC has publicly announced support of MOTIF and even that it will replace/integrate DECWindows with MOTIF. DECWins shows considerable thought and investment on DEC's part. Are they going to "junk" it for the apparently market required MOTIF? Is MOTIF even binary license available on the RISC line of workstations? Anyone is welcome to reply, publicly or privately. I would appreciate input from DEC reps, engineers, end-users, OSF reps, OSF bashers--facts or opinions. --John Gossman SoftSource Inc. / My company stands behind my opinions, but only in private /
Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!decwrl!bacchus.pa.dec.com!decuac! decuac.DEC.COM!avolio From: avo...@decuac.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix Subject: Re: MOTIF Message-ID: <1990Aug27.101958@decuac.DEC.COM> Date: 27 Aug 90 14:19:58 GMT References: <1990Aug27.073802.8258@ircam.ircam.fr> <1431@unicorn.WWU.EDU> Sender: n...@decuac.DEC.COM Reply-To: avo...@decuac.DEC.COM (Frederick M. Avolio) Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Washington ULTRIX Resource Center Lines: 16 Posted: Mon Aug 27 15:19:58 1990 OSF/Motif is available NOW from Digital on ULTRIX and VMS. Digital will (is doing it now) migrate all DECwindows-based out-of-the-box applications to a Motif look and feel. Motif and the mwm will be the standard, supported, user and application program interface on our platforms. Motif from Digital today comes with tools to help migrate source code from DECwindows to Motif. Digital is not tossing out DECwindows, merely modifying it. You may recall that a large percentage of Motif is based on DECwindows technology (the application program interface and the user interface language, for example). I am not a Product Manager or a Project Manager for this, but I suspect that you will hear from one such person soon (hint, hint, hello Palo Alto.... :-) ). Fred
Path: gmdzi!unido!mcsun!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu! zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!haven!decuac!bacchus.pa.dec.com! decwrl!hall From: h...@wsl.dec.com (Jon "Maddog" Hall) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix Subject: Re: MOTIF Message-ID: <1990Aug27.163202.16515@wrl.dec.com> Date: 27 Aug 90 16:32:02 GMT References: <1431@unicorn.WWU.EDU> Sender: n...@wrl.dec.com (News) Reply-To: h...@wsl.dec.com (Jon "Maddog" Hall) Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory Lines: 38 Posted: Mon Aug 27 17:32:02 1990 Motif V1.0 is shipping as a separate distribution kit from the ULTRIX distribution. We fully intend on replacing the XUI interface with the Motif interface in an upcoming release. As you probably know, the intrinsics for the Motif Toolkit are being changed in the Motif V1.1 release to make them compatible with the R4 intrinsics from MIT, so there will be one set of intrinsics again. Digital decided to wait until this was done before integrating Motif with the standard distribution. If developers wish to develop an application using Motif V1.0 (with the realization that they may have to change their code in the future if they program to the intrinsic level), then they can order the following distribution kits: RISC/ULTRIX: DECwindows Developer Kit on ULTRIX for OSF/Motif (RISC) QA-YMBAA-H5 VAX/ULTRIX DECwindows Developer Kit on ULTRIX for OSF/Motif (VAX) QA-YMCAA-H5 You may install this kit on any UWS system or UWS Server you have, since the royalty to OSF has been paid for every UWS system and the license retrofitted to every UWS system. The software has been tested against UWS V2.2 and UWS V4.0. Jon "maddog" Hall Product Manager ULTRIX Worksystems